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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Question for Americans Reply with quote

I hear a rumour that the Democrat delegates may decide to inflict Al Gore on you in a bid to "unite the party", what with all the fighting between Hitlery and Hussein (guess you can tell what I think of 'em from that...).

How do you think the Republicans would respond - would it be spun to the electorate as the Democratic Party 'elite' inflicting on you a candidate who didn't even stand?
Or do people think he'd be good? (lmao)

Whats the feeling amongst the listeners?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down with government! Burn baby, burn!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: The Grey Eminence Reply with quote

I don't truly understand Gore's enduring appeal among some Democrats. Wounded pride would be my best guess. There has been chatter about his return to electoral politics since 2002.

The Republicans would have to do very little spinning of their own if the convention elected to break the deadlock by handing the nomination to Gore. Disaffected Democrats would do it for them. They would hurt themselves among women voters, but the fall out among double A's would be very serious. The damage would not be limited to November. It could very well effect the next quarter century. Since the Roosevelt era, African Americans have been the most reliable part of the Dem coalition. If Senator Obama doesn't get the nod at this point, black voters will stay home. There is no telling when or if they would return. Can't say I blame them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Pennsylvania, which is the next big state to vote in the primaries. There was a huge push to register Democratic voters by March 24. In this state, you can only vote for a candidate in your registered party. So, since no Pennsylvania Republican's vote will count as McCain has it wrapped up... if you want to vote in the primary, you better be a Democrat.

Also, I live in Pittsburgh, which has a strong working class background. Working class basically equals union, and in the past, if the union told you to vote a certain way, you did. In America you can do sort of a straight party vote - pull one lever and vote for every Democratic candidate, or pull a different one and vote for every Republican candidate. Lots of union members for many years have pulled the Democratic lever.

Hillary, or as I will hereafter refer to her as "Billary," was in our St. Patrick's Day Parade (No, I didn't go. I was asleep that morning). Barack Obama was here on Friday at our Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Hall and tomorrow his wife will speak on one of our many college campuses. They are all pushing for the Pennsylvania vote.

As far as the Gore thing goes, it looks like a grassroots push. Like, write in Stephen Colbert for President! http://www.draftgore.com/ It will go nowhere. A total non starter.

But it is fascinating that so many people are compelled by the idea of him as President. I think that it is due to his post-presidential-bid humanitarian efforts. Once they're off the chain, what do politicians do with their time? Al Gore has concentrated on one single issue. Devoted time and energy to it and has won big awards for it. Seriously, the Nobel Peace Prize is nothing to sneeze at. He found a way to improve the world - and not through his political career, but as a civilian. Jimmy Carter also focused himself on humanitarian concerns and also won a Nobel Peace Prize. Bill Clinton, after his presidency, has worked to turn overages in American hospitals into supplies for third world doctors. Basically, the guy collects scalpels. And gives them to Africa.

I don't think that any of them could have made such a large impact without their experiences in the White House.

So how do you elect the American president? What is their job, really? I mean, there they are in the most powerful elected position in the world, and it looks like Carter, Gore, and Clinton all did more for the world after their presidency?

Billary's emphasis on health care is similar to Bill's emphasis on health care when he first ran for president. People are either thrilled or appalled at the idea that his wife's presidency might be like a third term for him. She's been seen to lie, they are quick to go on the offensive when attacked, and are generally regarded as dirty fighters.

Barack Obama made an eloquent speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU) that was calm and measured. It showed a lot of respect for both sides of the coin.

Jon Stewart has some commentary on the highlights of the speech.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=164437&title=baracks-wright-response

Okay. I'm tired and depressed now. I'm going to bed! Maybe later I'll tell you what I think of McCain Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you recall the official 2IGTV.com advertising video a few years ago you'll know Mark's and my opinion of Gore.

However, he did score points with us for his appearance in 30ROCK last year as he parodied himself. So he's not just a complete moron, but a complete moron with a sense of humour!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video? What video? Will you link to that or will the Iron Fist of Mark come down to censor that, too? What's wrong with Al Gore?

Not only did Gore do 30 Rock, he's also been on Saturday Night Live and multiple Futuramas. In fact, he did one Futurama episode with Nichelle Nichols, Stephen Hawking, and Gary Gygax. He does have a sense of humor and I think he's a patriotic American who has conducted himself with far more graciousness and intelligence than Billary.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I just got my first call. All the way from California. From a group who want to elect Billary. I wonder how many more I'll get and how did they get my phone number?
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